I'm just concerned in terms of getting the drivers and getting big players to collaborate.It's fine now but if Tizen gets big a lot of other big players are going to want a piece of that cake and I'm worried what that response will be from Samsung.I really don't want OS centered to cater someone else s technologies.It was hard enough to get phone manufacturers to deal with mess that came with ARM.There haven't been any controversial things about Tizen yet for people to fixate on. Sure, I guess people could complain about the parts that are under Flora license, but those are to my knowledge just userland apps that can relatively easily be replaced for a hypothetical full-OSS version.
It's not.Take a look around the sites that follow this kind of things.Almost universal reaction to Tizen and Firefox OS was : "unimaginative","repetitive","to little to late",same for Tizen.There is a nice group of people around it but that is pretty much about it.Even when Firefox OS first get it's debut, concern was raised because of iphone (first) way of doing things.Remember,first iphone was all web.People see these OSs as cheap.60% I'll guess I will have to take your word on it because everyone else think It's nightmare to get successful today in smartphone space.What? That's stupid. The smartphone market is only about 60% saturated, tops. There's plenty of room for at least a couple more open source operating systems.
There are no issues her I guess if you take fragmentation problem into consideration.I'm fine by it but not everyone wants distro spinoffs and to point again on first comment.So you get here group off people who follow like fans some OS like people do with iphone and people that have to reinvent everything from ground up.Its fine to say that now but it remains to see how other players are going to be fine with idea distros on smartphones,tablets,TV-s and everything else.It's already hard enough to get support for Allwinner board imagine that with brand new display server and no drivers.If that happens all that will remain from this push are sea of dead OSs.What use of wayland then ? Lets imagine that they fail and only remaining lingering OS is Ubuntu.Canonical would have all the say.And? It's open source if the source is open. Samsung/Intel can choose whatever development model they want, as long as they release it open source, which means that anyone can take the code and fork their own version of Tizen to run on the device of their choice.
Again,this can be levitated with plugins like Gnome does but take a look how well(bad) that works now.I doubt they will bother to cater to everybody's needs.Few broken eggs,who gives a shit,right ?Chances are if you are going to put something different instead of that particular OS you are going to have to change everything from the top layer and that means fragmentation.
Pointless and baseless speculation.
So again you have to take that particular code and fork it witch in this case I'm repeating myself to much.My main issues here is fragmentation I was not very clear in that comment I admit that.
Which means you get Android but with Wayland who can't run on all devices because all drivers that are going to bee available are proprietary (Tegra and everything else ) . People are running on real delusion here that Wayland is magical unicorn that will bring and I'm not fcking kidding here :Mir isn't any more likely to get driver support than Wayland is.Misinformation and strawman argument. Wayland can use Android drivers just the same as Android itself. The code that Mir uses for using Android drivers was originally developed for Wayland.
Also, Wayland WILL get driver support, both on the desktop and on mobile. On the mobile side, we have Intel, Samsung, Jolla, all investing in Wayland, and they have enough power to make driver support happen. On the desktop side, we have Red Hat, which will go with Wayland, and both nvidia and AMD will want to support Red Hat because of server farms.
I was wrong here in terms of driver support i was under impression that Mir doesn't use libhybris anymore.For some strange reason I thought that that libhybris was just some wrapper and that canonical re purpose it more aggressively directly into Mir. My bad
This is what I hate about this situation.Wayland is best option ,yes.But can someone please make a serious article on differences between the two and not include their bitchiness and morality.Im not going to say anything about walled gardens because I'm still waiting to see how will this pan out.Wayland really is the best possible display server. Without Mir, we could have finally gotten real convergence on the entire Linux ecosystem, mobile and desktop alike. Everything running on the same display server and being compatible. Because of Mir, that's not going to be the case, which is reason enough to hate Mir.
Canonical is doing nothing except building a new walled garden, to separate themselves from other Linux distros. It's a power grab, nothing more.