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    Phoronix: Canonical Is Hiring More Mir, Unity Developers

    Canonical is hiring more engineers to work on their Mir Display Server and Unity desktop interface...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM5NjM

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    in b4 superthread

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    I would even pay some serious cash to know what is behind the decision to re-invent the wheel, to make MIR, to dump Wayland. I just can't believe that it's only because of some stupid feature that could be discussed. There must be more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redi44 View Post
    I would even pay some serious cash to know what is behind the decision to re-invent the wheel, to make MIR, to dump Wayland. I just can't believe that it's only because of some stupid feature that could be discussed. There must be more...
    They want control over it. It's pretty obvious and rational. No one can blame them since they are free to do whatever suites their business the best.
    Having everything in-house like the initsystem (Upstart), the desktop and the display server etc. makes it easier to make a product when you have full control over the most important parts.

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    Mir is an *extremely* important project. If it would fail (doubt it... it's looking mighty good), that would be a huge problem for Canonical. So they don't want to risk having differences with the Wayland developers and running into unforeseen troubles.

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    So... Why companies like Red Hat (you know, somebody who really makes money from Linux) can afford this? Sorry, but control is not valid point either IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redi44 View Post
    I would even pay some serious cash to know what is behind the decision to re-invent the wheel, to make MIR, to dump Wayland. I just can't believe that it's only because of some stupid feature that could be discussed. There must be more...
    The people at Canonical have been very vocal about why they don't want to use Wayland and they want their own thing instead. The way Wayland is designed is very different than Mir and doesn't fit in with the convergence and "One OS" philosophy of Unity. Wayland doesn't address the same issues and would fundamentally not fit into Unity.

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    Future needs one display system to all devices and that is Mir. Until Mir is open source then everything is fine. X.Org is stoneage and should be terminated.

    I am glad they are using pure c++ and Cmake system.
    Last edited by tuuker; 06-26-2013 at 06:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryhartline View Post
    The people at Canonical have been very vocal about why they don't want to use Wayland and they want their own thing instead. The way Wayland is designed is very different than Mir and doesn't fit in with the convergence and "One OS" philosophy of Unity. Wayland doesn't address the same issues and would fundamentally not fit into Unity.
    Thank's for the PR...

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    Quote Originally Posted by caryhartline View Post
    The people at Canonical have been very vocal about why they don't want to use Wayland and they want their own thing instead.
    No they haven't but you are of course free to link any posts about the subject. Most of the orginal reasons very refuted.

    Quote Originally Posted by caryhartline View Post
    The way Wayland is designed is very different than Mir and doesn't fit in with the convergence and "One OS" philosophy of Unity.
    How? Wayland was designed similar setups in mind and KDE is going to use it as such.

    Quote Originally Posted by caryhartline View Post
    Wayland doesn't address the same issues and would fundamentally not fit into Unity.
    What issues Mir addresses that Wayland doesn't?

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