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    Default Qt 5.1 Finally Released With Lots Of Good Features

    Phoronix: Qt 5.1 Finally Released With Lots Of Good Features

    One day after the Qt 4.8.5 release, after facing many delays Qt 5.1 is finally available...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQwMTc

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    Not really, the KDE agreement makes sure that nothing bad happens to the Qt code. It can't be turned proprietary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    Yes, really. Digias opportunity to damage the software freedom can only be countered by KDEs equal right to also damage the software freedom. This is not MAD like the cold war nuclear situation. This is KDE and Digia both holding a gun against freedom. If I where in charge of either I would immediately revoke my rights to go against freedom. KDEs situation is the worst. By being moral and just to software freedom they have to kill off the freedom and relicense to an non-free license. That is like killing your own family. The contributor license sucks as much as KDEs rights.
    this is soooo illogical that i can understand if you are trolling or confirming the post, rewrite your post when you are sober plz

    in case you are trolling, kde can license Qt code as lgpl or gpl or gpl2 or whatever free license they like so i can't see your point [did you read the actual agreement?]

    in case you are not trolling, yes KDE make sure digia stay clean and abide to the GPL version[which again digia is the first interested party in keep the community on, otherwise they just burned all the cash they paid to nokia for no reason]

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    Same day the full Qt port of LXDE has been announced:
    http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1013

    Wonder when GIMP follows… ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    Wonder when GIMP follows… ;-)
    When GIMP stops using the GIMP Toolkit? Somewhere between when pigs fly and when hell freezes over, I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    When GIMP stops using the GIMP Toolkit? Somewhere between when pigs fly and when hell freezes over, I suspect.
    I deliberately wrote that sentence about GIMP.

    Thing is, despite all that trolling about how evil Qt supposedly is, it's the best toolkit under a free license. If Qt was so very evil, why is GTK so bad? One would think everybody would flock to it to make it better…
    Xfce is the last mainstream Linux shell that's written using GTK.
    GNOME Shell is written with Clutter. So is Cinnamon.
    Plasma Workspaces never were written in GTK, Unity uses Nux and will switch to Qt, and now LXDE has been ported to Qt. (OK, maybe you can count MATE as major shell.)
    And while I'm aware of GIMP’s roadmap, the GIMP team hasn't really been in a hurry to make the jump to GTK3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    KDE can not relicense Qt. KDE can relicense Qt Free Edition. This is very important to understand. Threatening Digia to keep doing Qt Free Edition releases by keeping the license is not very powerfull KDE can only threat Digia by releaseing a non-free but liberal licensed version of Qt Free edition.

    So if Digia goes non-free so kan KDE. How can this not be seen as holding to guns against freedom?
    You make no sense AT ALL.

    Did you even read my comment?

    There are not editions of Qt, it is all the same source code, just available under different licenses. LGPL/GPL (free), or if you pay money, you get a commercial license without the GPL/LGPL restricitons and get paid support.
    The Qt free agreement garuntees the free licensing option of Qt will always exist. If that option were to be removed tomorrow, KDE automatically get's to relicense Qt under any open source license they choose, (be it BSD, LGPL, ect.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by n3wu53r View Post
    You make no sense AT ALL.

    Did you even read my comment?

    There are not editions of Qt, it is all the same source code, just available under different licenses. LGPL/GPL (free), or if you pay money, you get a commercial license without the GPL/LGPL restricitons and get paid support.
    The Qt free agreement garuntees the free licensing option of Qt will always exist. If that option were to be removed tomorrow, KDE automatically get's to relicense Qt under any open source license they choose, (be it BSD, LGPL, ect.).
    dont bother he is like bo$$ that choose to not read the part of the post/evidence/links/etc that prove him wrong and make it look like an idiot to sadly trying to keep the troll active

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    and either way if this guy is actually a master lawyer genius and saw an actual defect that thousand of eyes missed, who in this universe imagine aaron seijo the guy who have put in hold the vivaldi tablet project until he could find open source friendly hardware providers in the ARM sector that has never even made a closed source KDE application and actually put a lot of weight for trolltech to release Qt as GPL back in the day that actually runs the KDE foundation which is the holder and a non-profit organization, will freaking make Qt closed source again? LOL richard stallman will make the GNU stack propietary and sell it to Apple for sandwiches first

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    Yes, really. Digias opportunity to damage the software freedom can only be countered by KDEs equal right to also damage the software freedom. This is not MAD like the cold war nuclear situation. This is KDE and Digia both holding a gun against freedom. If I where in charge of either I would immediately revoke my rights to go against freedom. KDEs situation is the worst. By being moral and just to software freedom they have to kill off the freedom and relicense to an non-free license. That is like killing your own family. The contributor license sucks as much as KDEs rights.
    You... a human being literally can't be this stupid.

    Its complete and utter financial suicide for Digia to close up Qt, and its complete and utter reputational and credibility suicide for KDE to NOT open up Qt if Digia WOULD close up.

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