now skipping the useless troll, im impressed with how close r600g is catalyst, except maybe in some test where it seems the shader is getting bottlenecked or is a driver side hack that r600g don't implement but nonetheless impressed
Guys is it me or it is obvious in all tests, even if they are old games, that Radeon HD 7xxx cards are performing noticeably worse than the older Radeons even with Catalyst running??
Also I ve noticed something like that although less intense with the Cayman islands Radeons HD 69xx both with gallium and catalyst!
Any idea why do we have those regressions even on the blob catalyst??
On the other hand nvidia's blob shows no regressions on latest 6xx series, Nouveau needs some love from nvidia either they like it or not!! I agree with Linus words back then...
Last edited by djdoo; 07-08-2013 at 11:43 AM.
You argued that most people that are installing Ubuntu don't know about the different drivers. This is absurd, since you have to do it manually on Windows. People that come from Windows expect that they have to do it and Ubuntu offers right after the installation to do it for them. People that are more experienced Linux users know about the different drivers and still can use jockey to install the proprietary ones if they choose to use them. So your argument is invalid.This argument that windows sucks too isn't good enough.
Who did say that? Linux is an OS that was designed as a Unix like OS for x86 based computers. It actually has nothing to do at all with Windows and I can't see any statements from the developers that it is aimed at being better than Windows. It is fanboys that claim Linux to be better than Windows, so that they can feel superior. Welcome to reality, Linux is better for some purposes, BSD for other and Windows again for different purposes. There is no such thing like a better OS, just like there is no such thing as a better flavor of icecream.Wasn't linux supposed to be better?
If you have to hunt on websites for drivers with Ubuntu you are doing something wrong.Instead of hunting on websites for drivers the OS just works.
Since the OS will install the driver for you automatically you have already your selling point. But since you claim that this is simply not true:Now that would be another selling point.Of course we can. You can't, that seems to be your whole point, you are unable to, so every one else must also be to dumb to click on "Activate" in the GUI dialog.But we can't have that now can we?
Now back on topic. It is indeed nice that the r600g driver has a pretty good performance, compared with fglrx. Only that fglrx itself does not perform well on Linux, compared to the Windows version, but this possibly may only be true for those older games. Would be really nice to see any modern games in a benchmark.
Of course, there will be some engines where the open drivers are less performant (see Reaction Quake), but I don't think that it's as dark as you paint it.
I have not done any formal benchmarks, but L4D2 and Portal perform about similar in Windows vs. Linux w/ current radeon drivers (and R600_DEBUG=sb). If the open drivers are slower, then not by much.
Last edited by brent; 07-08-2013 at 12:22 PM.