Situation: We have one display server running on desktops and similar devices (X), one that runs on Android devices (SurfaceFlinger). Since the old display server named X is not really a good solution anymore for modern machines Wayland is developed, being able to run on all form factors, which actually prevents future fragmentation.
Canonical steps in: Hey, look, we will fork that Wayland thingy, because it totally does what we want, but we want to have control over it. We won't admit that and invent bogus technical reasons and we will actively fragment the display server landscape, but we don't care.
BO$$: Hey, they are doing it to prevent fragmentation and to standardize the display server landscape.
Hey, you know what? If you want an OS where you are forced to do things in a specific way, why coming to Linux? Why not just go to OS X or Windows?
The goold old XKCD applies again: http://xkcd.com/927/
Demagogy. Like a BO$$.
If fragmentation was the main problem that these arrogant project leaders (and their pathetic fanatics) wanted to solve, they would've support Wayland to take a simple step to unite the whole ecosystem. (which was the idea at the first place) - Then, if there was something they would like to add, they simply could use Wayland branch and create a modified version of their own to get it ready for Consumer use.
But fragmentation isn't the problem. Because nobody's trying to bare their own neck. Monopolism is the main deal. And it's going that way. - Next demagogy we're going to witness will be "There's nothing wrong with a company trying to make profit bla bla" Yeah, nothing's wrong with that as we all agree. But if that company is trying to feed on our ecosystem and trying to become an Apple/Microsoft hybrid, (like *some* other companies in this ecosystem) then there's a problem.
No damn project is trying to unite anything in this ecosystem. It's simply corrupted.
Last edited by reznov; 07-09-2013 at 02:24 PM.
about you previous posts as always "bla bla bla is ovbious i can't even read C without getting an stroke bla bla never read a mailing list or investigate facts in my life bla bla bla" nothing new
btw i have strong suspicious mike will give a nasty surprise to mark in the next months when they announce the steamBox
for the rest ppl they can use windows 3.1 for all i care and after all market share is mostly decided by money more than technical reasons this days, after all only smart ppl understand C and complicated stuff psheeesh.. while your average joe want shinny things and superbowl ads showing how you can do all those wonderful freaky thingies with X brand OEM PC that most of them don't even have the knowledge[or IQ] to use.
You know what flexibility is? When an OS is built in a way that a newbie can do his tasks with it and the experts can do their tasks with it also without having the need to use dumbed down GUI interfaces. You know, both of it, not only one. While Windows is good is the first part it is a sucker in the last part, and this will not change with Microsoft's attempt to at least deliver a somewhat decent shell.
But this all has nothing at all to do with Mir and its, according to you, alleged attempt to stop fragmentation.
One last thing:Ah, so now we know why you are still using it. As we say in Germany: Einsicht ist der erste Schritt zur Besserung. A fault confessed is half redressed.People run away from linux because it's full of arrogant losers. Ever thought of that?
But anyways, this is a thread about Mir, so maybe you now try to explain why supporting a company that goes on to fragment the Linux ecosystem helps to stop fragmenting the Linux ecosystem, as you claimed earlier.