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    What is the advantage of running Ubuntu on a smartphone? I'm not trolling, just asking. Android seems way ahead of Ubuntu in terms of GUI functionality, while desktop Linux like Ubuntu seems way ahead in terms of the full command line ecosystem.

    Also, why doesn't Ubuntu push Java more for GUI app development? It seems that many of the best GUI apps, such as the super IDEs like IntelliJ and Eclipse, and even a few games (Minecraft, Wakfu) are Java-based? That seems like an ideal solution to the problems of desktop Linux GUI development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verde View Post
    Do you really believe that a smartphone with quad-core CPU, 128GB SSD and sapphire crystal screen protector that can run native Ubuntu OS if you dock it with mini HDMI cable will cost 300$ in the next 10 months?
    Easily, Nexus 4 is their demo device, it costs $299 with a BOM to be $157. In 10 months, maybe the cost of 128GB SSD and sapphire crystal screen protector can be included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    it's going to be the ARM native Ubuntu OS
    You keep saying that like it's fact despite that not being affirmed as a fact. And before you pull out the "but Android!" bit, I've already sent you a link to Android builds running on Intel architecture. Do try to focus on facts instead of whatever butt hurt fantasy land you're living in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mendieta View Post
    I think the big elephant in the room is carrier subsidies. Most people expect to pay $100 or so upfront, and lock into a contract. I would love to get one of these phones when I renew my cellphone contract, but I wouldn't splurge on a $600 or higher purchase of a cellphone right now.
    Unless Canonical makes a strategic shift, you will NEVER be able to get one on a carrier subsidy. They are only making a limited number and will ship directly to consumers. This is your only guaranteed way to get one. They have indicated they MIGHT do this again in the future if the effort is successful, but no guarantees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [Knuckles] View Post
    Variable-pricing pricing campaigns are always harder, I think.
    It's hard not to feel cheated when you ask for a lot of money and then you discover you could have paid a significant amount less if you'd bought yesterday. I know I've been put off by other kickstarters doing that.
    The updated message says

    "If you contributed at the $830 Ubuntu Edge or $1,400 Double Edge levels before the new perks arrived, we’ll issue you a refund of the difference once the campaign is successful. If you’re happy with the amount you contributed, you can opt out of this refund by emailing us at indiegogoinfo@canonical.com."

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    after they had sold the $600 phones the sales of the $830 were terrible, they only sold about 450 or so, they needed to sell about 50,000, they would have got past $9m at the slow rate of sales that they had. Adding this cheapER prices won't help, once the $625 and $675 phones have gone which total 2250 the same problem will arise. Ubuntu need to just sell all their remaining phones at $600-650 or they will not meet that $32m target and will therefore receive no money AT ALL. This would be incredibly embarrassing for canonical and would result in very few developers creating apps for ubuntu o.s as it will be seen as a very unpopular o.s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akincer View Post
    You keep saying that like it's fact despite that not being affirmed as a fact. And before you pull out the "but Android!" bit, I've already sent you a link to Android builds running on Intel architecture. Do try to focus on facts instead of whatever butt hurt fantasy land you're living in.
    this is what it is going to run on from the start http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android

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    Quote Originally Posted by verde View Post
    You again?

    did you redo your hair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    this is what it is going to run on from the start http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android
    You should probably read that page. You'll find interesting things like this:

    "The hardware requirements are straightforward and, with a broad range of ARM and x86 hardware supported, it can realistically be added to phones already in development."

    Aren't facts fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanLamb View Post
    What is the advantage of running Ubuntu on a smartphone? I'm not trolling, just asking. Android seems way ahead of Ubuntu in terms of GUI functionality, while desktop Linux like Ubuntu seems way ahead in terms of the full command line ecosystem.

    Also, why doesn't Ubuntu push Java more for GUI app development? It seems that many of the best GUI apps, such as the super IDEs like IntelliJ and Eclipse, and even a few games (Minecraft, Wakfu) are Java-based? That seems like an ideal solution to the problems of desktop Linux GUI development.
    Much nicer GUI and better system navigation (very personal, I especially like how the indicators work as I too often
    need to open Androids system settings app and how you can quickly change apps as I ty to multi-task a lot).
    Speed (much smoother animations and quicker response on the device I'm testing with (Galaxy Nexus).
    Native C++ apps (also this for speed).

    Java is better for bigger apps as it's easier to code and the downsides of the JVM isn't as noticeable
    but on small apps like most phone apps the downsides of JVM (extra startup time, slower execution
    until the JIT have wormed up, extra memory usage)
    And on small devices like phones the Garbage Collector actually uses a noticeable part of the available
    CPU cycles.

    I like Java, together with Python that is the best language for coding but you have to know when your
    favourite tool becomes a burden. If you know the size of the bolts head a fixed wrench is better than
    a variable one

    However Android still have the biggest advantage: available apps. If this device didn't have the ability
    to multi-boot I wouldn't have "bought" it no matter how much better the system actually is (for me).

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