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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    But why should the people who make those Ubuntu derivatives bother switching? I doubt their users are demanding it. Perhaps they are still happy using Ubuntu. Should they do it to satisfy the whims of Phoronix users? Keep in mind that Xorg isn't being removed on Ubuntu, so any reason you propose has to be better than the default of carrying on using Ubuntu+Xorg. The only possible reason I can see is if Ubuntu ceased as a distribution - but that is unlikely - it is much more likely to morph into something else than to disappear altogether from the face of the earth.
    Why should I propose any reason for them to switch, if I'm not asking them to? I just say they won't die just because Ubuntu may or may not fall.

    EDIT: As for the update not being trivial, Ubuntu distro upgrades broke my system more than once, so it's not like they are the ultimate cure for everything. I agree the update process might not be trivial, but since a fresh install is preferred usually anyway (because sometimes the upgrade breaks the system) is not that much of a change. As for rebasing, rebasing on Debian is quite trivial for an experienced maintainer.
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    Default Ubuntu, Mint, Debian

    Ubuntu, Mint, Debian

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    You're right, there is absolutely nothing that builds on Ubuntu... apart from Edubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Kubuntu, UbuntuKylin, Lubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Xubuntu, BackBox, Baltix, Fluxbuntu, FrogLinux, Guadalinex, Itis Linux, ChristianUbuntu, Ubuntu Mini, Sabily, Ubuntulite, UbuntuRescueRemix, Dubuntu, liUbuntu, Tilix, Runtu, gNewSense, Ichthux, Linux Secure, Mint, Pioneer, MMourcebuntu, TeXbuntu, Vinux, BlankOn, Elbuntu, Zorin OS, Gnoppix, gOS, ImpiLinux, Kiwi_Linux, nUbuntu, PUD Gnu/Linux, Pyramid Linux, TheOpenCD, Ulteo, Bardinux, FreezyLinux, OzOS, moonOS, Ubuntu Eee, SuperX, Satux, BigLinux, LliureX, OpenTLE, Polippix, BoliviaOS, Bubuntu, iMagic OS, Securpc, Zevenos, and Estobuntu.
    all based off from Debian Unstable....

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    As an independent Benchmark it should be testing as many Distributions as possible!

    Despite that I would recommend debian and/or lfs (Linux from Scratch) and as a "Fan boy" openSUSE

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    Ubuntu and Mint or Debian depending on Michells preference.

    Ubuntu is and will continue to be the most used Linux distribution.
    Stopping benchmarking it would be plain stupid.

    Mint and Debian är both stable popular distributions that would be
    more similar to Linux distributions over all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajn View Post
    Ubuntu and Mint or Debian depending on Michells preference.

    Ubuntu is and will continue to be the most used Linux distribution.
    Stopping benchmarking it would be plain stupid.

    Mint and Debian är both stable popular distributions that would be
    more similar to Linux distributions over all.
    From what some troll was linking it shows Ubuntu is only like .9% of Linux Users...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    But why should the people who make those Ubuntu derivatives bother switching? I doubt their users are demanding it. Perhaps they are still happy using Ubuntu. Should they do it to satisfy the whims of Phoronix users? Keep in mind that Xorg isn't being removed on Ubuntu, so any reason you propose has to be better than the default of carrying on using Ubuntu+Xorg. The only possible reason I can see is if Ubuntu ceased as a distribution - but that is unlikely - it is much more likely to morph into something else than to disappear altogether from the face of the earth.
    They would because they'll want to move on to Wayland, and Ubuntu doesn't support Wayland. Maybe some niche distros will be happy to stay on plain old Xorg, but as time goes by it will become more and more inconvenient, as most desktops will focus more and more towards Wayland. This time next year, the first mainstream distros running Wayland by default will be out there. Staying on Xorg is not a sustainable long term plan.

    Probably what most buntus will do is rebase on Kubuntu, which has taken on itself the task of maintaining Wayland and the necessary libraries. Kubuntu will probably keep on basing itself on Ubuntu as long as it's easy enough, without having to replace too much of the software stack, as long as Ubuntu doesn't patch the graphics stack so much that it breaks compatibility with non-Mir distros (ie. every distro except Ubuntu).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    From what some troll was linking it shows Ubuntu is only like .9% of Linux Users...
    As for 12/2011

    Facebook Shares
    Another interesting statistic we can find online is the number of times a distro’s home page has been shared on Facebook. While clearly not an exact indication of a distro’s popularity, it can give us some idea of how many people share a link to their favorite distro with their friends. The following statistics come from the Facebook Graph API and show links to the distro’s homepage. Ubuntu has a clear lead in Facebook shares, with Linux Mint and Fedora fighting for second.

    Ubuntu - 83,945 shares
    Linux Mint - 7,762 shares
    Fedora - 6,313 shares
    Debian - 3,986 shares
    Arch - 1,445 shares
    CentOS - 979 shares
    openSUSE - 599 shares
    PCLinuxOS - 573 shares
    Puppy - 426 shares
    Mandriva - 419 shares

    This is like a fanboysm meter.

    http://www.starryhope.com/ubuntu-mos...-linux-distro/


    But i think this is more accurate:

    http://linuxcounter.net/distributions/stats.html

    Ubuntu 28,5%
    Debian 19,5%
    Fedora 7,4%
    Slackwave 6,4%
    Suse 6,2%
    Gentoo 4,2%
    CentOS 4,1%
    Arch 3,5%
    Kubuntu 2%
    Red Hat 1,7%
    Mint 1,6%
    etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    They would because they'll want to move on to Wayland, and Ubuntu doesn't support Wayland.
    This is just false, Wayland is in the default Ubuntu repos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phielix View Post
    As an independent Benchmark it should be testing as many Distributions as possible!

    Despite that I would recommend debian and/or lfs (Linux from Scratch) and as a "Fan boy" openSUSE
    Do you realize LFS isn't even a distro, in the traditional meaning, do you? I mean, it's just docs, they don't even keep a central repo of sources (that's what keep it from being a source based distro). Manually built OS can't count as a distribution, because you are not actually *distributing*.
    The idea of benchmarks is for users to get an idea of how it will run for them, and LFS is the furthest from something you can extrapolate, it's 100% custom.
    Also, Debian unstable, maybe, but stable wouldn't help.

    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    They would because they'll want to move on to Wayland, and Ubuntu doesn't support Wayland. Maybe some niche distros will be happy to stay on plain old Xorg, but as time goes by it will become more and more inconvenient, as most desktops will focus more and more towards Wayland. This time next year, the first mainstream distros running Wayland by default will be out there. Staying on Xorg is not a sustainable long term plan.

    Probably what most buntus will do is rebase on Kubuntu, which has taken on itself the task of maintaining Wayland and the necessary libraries. Kubuntu will probably keep on basing itself on Ubuntu as long as it's easy enough, without having to replace too much of the software stack, as long as Ubuntu doesn't patch the graphics stack so much that it breaks compatibility with non-Mir distros (ie. every distro except Ubuntu).
    I don't think everyone will necessarily dislike Mir. I think it's Ubuntu Kilyn or something like that who's main focus is just make Ubuntu better for chinese people. I think this distro would probably go with Mir, to keep using Unity, for example.
    Flavors, on the other hand, or derivatives based on desktops other than Unity, yeah, they are probably either on the Wayland's wagon or sticking with X.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pajn View Post
    Ubuntu and Mint or Debian depending on Michells preference.

    Ubuntu is and will continue to be the most used Linux distribution.
    Stopping benchmarking it would be plain stupid.

    Mint and Debian är both stable popular distributions that would be
    more similar to Linux distributions over all.
    I do believe Ubuntu should still be the base, general benchmark platform, because it's the single distro with the most users (so, the benchmarks for Ubuntu extend for more users than to any other distro), but since it uses a different display server (which is quite crucial on any GUI's performance) than anyone else, there should be an alternative (assuming Unity won't be ported to Wayland, and since the desktop might affect, too), for testing graphics performance for everyone else, too.

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