XMir Lands In Ubuntu 13.10 Main
Phoronix: XMir Lands In Ubuntu 13.10 Main
As expected with Canonical's plans to land the Mir Display Server with XMir in Ubuntu 13.10 where Unity 7 will run atop XMir by default for supported configurations, the various components have now landed in the Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy" main archive...
they also need to fix full system Lock ups for AMD users
Too bad Ubuntu 13.10 saucy salamander (and Debian) have old Wayland and Weston in their repositories.
Ubuntu has Wayland in it's repos too
Originally Posted by uid313
You can try:
Originally Posted by uid313
May need some assembly.
It's sad that xwayland is a little ignored by developers.
Yes, I know.
Originally Posted by LinuxGamer
But it is the old version.
I've been reading these forums for several months now, and the ones over XWayland, XMir, Mir, Wayland are really baffling me. My understanding is that XWayland and therefore XMir (because most of its been based of XWayland) are really there to provide support for applications that won't be running natively under Wayland and Mir when they're ready. So it's quite bizarre that people are wanting these technologies now and wanting to run full desktops on them, which in a best case scenario will give you the same performance as using vanilla X. I can understand wanting them to test your software, but not as an X replacement, especially right now. However, these threads soon fall apart from discussing the technological advantages of these new technologies, what they can be used for, their feasibility, and their general need to fanboys declaring a win for Ubuntu because they can sort of run things on XMir right now, with everyone trying to point out the flaws in their arguments and being called trolls.
There really needs to be some perspective about what these technologies are being used for, what their going to be used for and what sort of time frame we're talking about. Mir is an Ubuntu technologies being developed for Unity solely and not being designed to take over the Linux ecosystem. Wayland though is being used by everyone else to shore up some of the failing of X. And XMir and Xwalyand are only there to make the passage seamless to their respective parents.That's the facts as they currently stand, things may change in a year who knows, but that's no reason for the name calling, ignorance and immaturity I've seen on these forums to a technical website.
So for those wanting to develop for Ubuntu, then I'm glad to see they're getting the tools they need to start doing a few things, though the tools for those wanting to develop for Wayland are also out there and its misleading to say or ask "where is Wayland?" at this stage.
Not quite. XWayland is intended for running X apps under a native Wayland desktop (such as Weston, or Gnome/KDE once ported). It's a compatibility layer, basically - both short term and long, the idea is that the desktop shell will be running native under Wayland, and XWayland will exist for running applications that don't support Wayland yet.
Originally Posted by felixmelton
In contast, XMir (for now, at least) runs only as a full-screen X session on top of Mir. This means you can run an entire X desktop on top of Mir, but it can't run X apps as individual windows under a native Mir desktop (if such a thing existed yet). This is the strategy Ubuntu is taking for the near future - Mir underneath, but a classic X desktop on top. Long term, they'll have a version of the Unity desktop running natively, and XMir will evolve into a legacy support function like XWayland.