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    Default Sabayon 13.08 Brings Systemd By Default, UEFI Fixes

    Phoronix: Sabayon 13.08 Brings Systemd By Default, UEFI Fixes

    The Gentoo-based Sabayon Linux distribution is yet another open-source operating system doing an update in the past few days after openSUSE, Mageia, Elementary, and even OpenIndiana...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQzMzk

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    That's pretty interesting, nice to see some public support for systemd, even if it's not from upstream Gentoo. I still use only systemd in the actual Gentoo, but the reaction to that when I mention this fact on their IRC and such can be unpleasant at times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    That's pretty interesting, nice to see some public support for systemd, even if it's not from upstream Gentoo. I still use only systemd in the actual Gentoo, but the reaction to that when I mention this fact on their IRC and such can be unpleasant at times...
    You will probably never receive a positive reaction to using systemd on Gentoo. Gentoo forked udev for a reason. If they actually wanted to use systemd they wouldn't have done so.

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    Well, to be honest, "they" is not Gentoo as a whole, but rather some of the Gentoo developers. There are people who package systemd and the unit files for the programs in Gentoo, too. They're just keeping low and quiet

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    Well, to be honest, "they" is not Gentoo as a whole, but rather some of the Gentoo developers. There are people who package systemd and the unit files for the programs in Gentoo, too. They're just keeping low and quiet
    Well you did go into their IRC room, you'll never get an accurate representation of most things by doing that. Most users don't/won't use IRC. I abandoned it awhile ago because the only people who seem to join those rooms are trolls or people who believe if you don't do it their way you're doing it wrong.

    Gentoo is about choice and building the system the way you want. The developers are probably going to stay clear of systemd because they developed openrc. And since the systemd developers merged udev into it, the Gentoo devs probably felt it was a move to make systemd the only init system people can move forward with. I also don't think they liked where udev was going, but that is something else.

    I remember hearing a backlash from Arch users when they made the switch. They did it pretty quick and I don't believe that all the packages had systemd support either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by migizi View Post
    Well you did go into their IRC room, you'll never get an accurate representation of most things by doing that. Most users don't/won't use IRC. I abandoned it awhile ago because the only people who seem to join those rooms are trolls or people who believe if you don't do it their way you're doing it wrong.
    The Gentoo IRC room is one of the liveliest places around, so I don't think you're right about that. Although it does seem that it's less biased on their forums. Also, speaking of bias against systemd, I've seen one of the Sunrise maintainers reject an ebuild due to it not including an OpenRC script, and put it very aggressively, without any justification (the submitter did end up writing an OpenRC script for the program to get it accepted, but if I was the submitter, I would definitely have objected).

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