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    Default Advancements Continue Around Wayland, GNOME

    Phoronix: Advancements Continue Around Wayland, GNOME

    Red Hat's Christian Schaller has shared some more information about improvements happening in the GNOME/Fedora Wayland world...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQ2NzU

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    Is the author writing these stories while on a trip? Anyway, much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    That is how you roll when you have more and better contributors than the competition.
    You were well and truly murked during you last trolling attempt, why do you bother?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    A few beers can't change what we all know. Gnome is moving full flank ahead on Wayland support. That is how you roll when you have more and better contributors than the competition.
    Or, maybe it takes more work to get Gnome working. You know, like having to submit multiple patches to Wayland recently to get their webkit implementation working on it while Qt's worked fine with an unpatched wayland months ago? I can't help you weren't bragging about how great Gnome was or how bad Qt was on that thread.
    Last edited by TheBlackCat; 09-24-2013 at 01:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    Or, maybe it takes more work to get Gnome working. You know, like having to submit multiple patches to Wayland recently to get their webkit implementation working on it while Qt's worked fine with an unpatched wayland months ago? I can't help you weren't bragging about how great Gnome was or how bad Qt was on that thread.
    We had to add several missing features to Wayland. It is great when you have no knowledge and just assume things. Maybe maybe our Webkit supports a little bit more? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkor View Post
    We had to add several missing features to Wayland. It is great when you have no knowledge and just assume things. Maybe maybe our Webkit supports a little bit more? :P
    Honton is a well-known troll. I am just pointing out his/her hypocrisy.

    The fact of the matter is that both KDE and Gnome are doing a lot of work to get Wayland working, and both are making a lot of progress. But they are doing things in a different order and in different ways. Honton always likes to claim in these posts that Gnome/GTK is making faster progress, but is conspicuously silent in cases where KDE/Qt has made faster progress.

    And I am not sure exactly what I assumed, I pointed out that KDE/Qt has made faster progress in some areas, and provided an alternative explanation that fits that data equally well (I noticed you did the same thing, also without providing any evidence).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    The fact of the matter is that both KDE and Gnome are doing a lot of work to get Wayland working, and both are making a lot of progress.
    I understood, no problem. Could you give me some pointers how I can follow the progress of KDE and Wayland? I'm following that person who maintains the KDE window manager (kwin?). Any recommendations for other people or mailing lists to follow? Prefer sources which have a lot of info about Wayland, not too much other stuff (except if generally interesting like the kwin maintainer).

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    first draft of a Wayland protocol extension for handling Wacom tablets
    Yes! Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    Or, maybe it takes more work to get Gnome working. You know, like having to submit multiple patches to Wayland recently to get their webkit implementation working on it while Qt's worked fine with an unpatched wayland months ago? I can't help you weren't bragging about how great Gnome was or how bad Qt was on that thread.
    Didn't the gnome project just move to a new new gtkwebkit called gtkwebkit2? That could've introduced some problems.
    As far as Qt is concerned, aren't they moving to a new web renderer (based on the new google project)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    Or, maybe it takes more work to get Gnome working. You know, like having to submit multiple patches to Wayland recently to get their webkit implementation working on it while Qt's worked fine with an unpatched wayland months ago? I can't help you weren't bragging about how great Gnome was or how bad Qt was on that thread.
    If you'd have bothered to follow the low level world of KWin you would know they are far behind on implementing Wayland because they are ripping out cruft to move to QT Frameworks for KDE and it's KDE Frameworks initiative.

    They won't be Wayland stable until KDE 5, if that.

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