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    Well done to Andy and colleagues at nvidia, and well done nouveau guys!

    Now Nvidia, please slowly start hiring some of those once pesky nouveau developers who held out for so long, they deserve nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libv View Post
    Well done to Andy and colleagues at nvidia, and well done nouveau guys!

    Now Nvidia, please slowly start hiring some of those once pesky nouveau developers who held out for so long, they deserve nothing less.
    And keep them working on nouveau.

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    Funny... didn't notice Hell freezing over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    This is great news, ofc!

    Any ideas why they're doing this now?
    Is there any obvious reason for this?
    Valve/SteamBox?
    The obvious reason is better out-of-the-box experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devius View Post
    Funny... didn't notice Hell freezing over.
    Indeed, very, very cold day in hell it is. ]:>

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    The obvious reason is better out-of-the-box experience.
    You mean better out-of-the-steambox experience?
    Apart from that the dire need for a better ootb-experience existed for many years.
    So the question was what's different *now*?

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    Quote Originally Posted by libv View Post
    Well done to Andy and colleagues at nvidia, and well done nouveau guys!

    Now Nvidia, please slowly start hiring some of those once pesky nouveau developers who held out for so long, they deserve nothing less.
    That would only cement nouveau inferiority to blob. Please do realize when nouveau devs are hired by NVIDIA they will be forced to work on stuff which does not threaten vendor NVIDIAs vendor lock-in strategy. Just look at AMD stalling in UVD PM cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropy View Post
    This is great news, ofc!

    Any ideas why they're doing this now?
    Is there any obvious reason for this?
    Valve/SteamBox?
    My guess: NVIDIA Loses Huge GPU Order Due To Linux Blob combined with NY Times: NSA Should Be Barred From Requiring Companies To Introduce Surveillance Backdoors. Given the revelations about the NSA being able to force US companies to include backdoors in their software, foreign governments would have to be crazy to keep on using closed source binaries from US vendors. There is no way China can trust US software now. Losing an order for over 10 million GPUs is pretty bad, losing every future foreign government order would be a disaster.

    The other thing threatening Nvidia is APUs. Intel has an onboard GPU. AMD has an onboard GPU. Integration can result in lower power and potentially higher performance through unified memory. Apple already moved the Macbook 11" and 13" to integrated GPU, both Sony and MS next-gen consoles are integrated GPU... The writing is on the wall for discrete cards in consumer systems. This only leaves Nvidia with the possibility of licensing their core for ARM mobile, or selling high performance cards to select customers. They need to adapt fast because people aren't going to pay the discrete card premium once Sony+MS show the world that cheaper integrated graphics is good enough for the top videogames consoles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    My guess: NVIDIA Loses Huge GPU Order Due To Linux Blob combined with NY Times: NSA Should Be Barred From Requiring Companies To Introduce Surveillance Backdoors. Given the revelations about the NSA being able to force US companies to include backdoors in their software, foreign governments would have to be crazy to keep on using closed source binaries from US vendors. There is no way China can trust US software now. Losing an order for over 10 million GPUs is pretty bad, losing every future foreign government order would be a disaster.
    Good points made!

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    The other thing threatening Nvidia is APUs. Intel has an onboard GPU. AMD has an onboard GPU. Integration can result in lower power and potentially higher performance through unified memory. Apple already moved the Macbook 11" and 13" to integrated GPU, both Sony and MS next-gen consoles are integrated GPU... The writing is on the wall for discrete cards in consumer systems. This only leaves Nvidia with the possibility of licensing their core for ARM mobile, or selling high performance cards to select customers. They need to adapt fast because people aren't going to pay the discrete card premium once Sony+MS show the world that cheaper integrated graphics is good enough for the top videogames consoles.
    Well this makes sense. However, I don't see how this motivates the release of documentation.

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