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    Default Ubuntu 14.04 Looks Toward Qt 5.2, Qt Mir In 14.10

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 14.04 Looks Toward Qt 5.2, Qt Mir In 14.10

    Ubuntu 13.10 shipped with Qt 5.0 instead of Qt 5.1, since while it was available for months prior there were some "unfixed regressions" in the newer tool-kit release. With Qt 5.2 being right around the corner, Canonical is looking to switch to the newer open-source tool-kit release if there isn't as much fallout...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUyMDY

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: Ubuntu 14.04 Looks Toward Qt 5.2, Qt Mir In 14.10

    Ubuntu 13.10 shipped with Qt 5.0 instead of Qt 5.1, since while it was available for months prior there were some "unfixed regressions" in the newer tool-kit release. With Qt 5.2 being right around the corner, Canonical is looking to switch to the newer open-source tool-kit release if there isn't as much fallout...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUyMDY

    Poor Gnome, poor GTK3...

    First Unity replacing parts of Gnome, now Canonical is depending more and more on Qt...

    What's going to happen to the GNU Network Object Model Environment?

    Are they still capable of "fighting" against Qt and KDE? Or are they going to make agreements in Freedesktop form and standarize more stuff like GVFS/GIO vs KIO?

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    I forgot to add a link, damn 1 limit limitation ruined it...

    Kill KIO (was: Repositioning the KDE brand)

    Things need to change, Linux is still a damn mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BO$$ View Post
    Hopefully Gnome will die. Linux needs only one toolkit. Anyways, nice progress from Canonical. Always thinking one step ahead.
    And controlled by one corporation, Digia.

    Their open governance is a joke, like the one about WebKit. And look at what happened, Google forked the fork and made BLINK

    Maybe they are always thinking one step ahead, but to themselves and contrary to the Free Software ecosystem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BO$$ View Post
    Hopefully Gnome will die. Linux needs only one toolkit. Anyways, nice progress from Canonical. Always thinking one step ahead.
    The problem isn't the toolkit, but the lack of standards and application development being ruined by toolkits. You develop software on one toolkit, then you are trapped by their ways (and it seems difficult to separate GUI from the rest of the code in toolkits like Qt).

    Both KDE and Gnome projects are tainted by seldom attitudes, but other DE suffer the same problem too.

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    let's get the fact: gnome is controlled by Red Hat behind the curtin
    kde is more independent then red hat's DE
    kde uses Qt which is a full framework; GTK is a simple tk and it is useless without gnome controlled libraries (GLib, GFVS,GIO, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BO$$ View Post
    Hopefully Gnome will die. Linux needs only one toolkit. Anyways, nice progress from Canonical. Always thinking one step ahead.
    Gnome won't die anytime soon, not until someone makes a DE that is more usable and more customizable. Gnome has lost a lot of its existing users who are used to the more traditional kind of desktops, but the new generation of users will find Gnome to be the most productive desktop environment, especially after customizing it to your needs from the pool of hundreds of existing extensions. Also, Gnome is currently progressing at a pace faster than other environment. The only point I have against Gnome 3 is the use of web technologies (CSS, Javascript) which makes it slow and heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timofonic View Post
    Poor Gnome, poor GTK3...

    First Unity replacing parts of Gnome, now Canonical is depending more and more on Qt...

    What's going to happen to the GNU Network Object Model Environment?

    Are they still capable of "fighting" against Qt and KDE? Or are they going to make agreements in Freedesktop form and standarize more stuff like GVFS/GIO vs KIO?
    Qt seems to be a better framework for cross platform application development and mobile . No brainer then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    Yeah. The Qt CLA is the last piece missing before the entire Canonical stack can be closed. It must be nice for Canonical to have a toolkit offering this. Who needs freedom anyway..
    What kind of freedom are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Sarmiento View Post
    What kind of freedom are you talking about?
    Honton is the resident CLA troll here on Phoronix. Just about any article about Ubuntu will have him popping up and trolling about CLA red herrings. Its a red herring. Ignore his posts.

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