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    Default Ubuntu 14.04 Looks Toward Qt 5.2, Qt Mir In 14.10

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 14.04 Looks Toward Qt 5.2, Qt Mir In 14.10

    Ubuntu 13.10 shipped with Qt 5.0 instead of Qt 5.1, since while it was available for months prior there were some "unfixed regressions" in the newer tool-kit release. With Qt 5.2 being right around the corner, Canonical is looking to switch to the newer open-source tool-kit release if there isn't as much fallout...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUyMDY

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: Ubuntu 14.04 Looks Toward Qt 5.2, Qt Mir In 14.10

    Ubuntu 13.10 shipped with Qt 5.0 instead of Qt 5.1, since while it was available for months prior there were some "unfixed regressions" in the newer tool-kit release. With Qt 5.2 being right around the corner, Canonical is looking to switch to the newer open-source tool-kit release if there isn't as much fallout...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUyMDY

    Poor Gnome, poor GTK3...

    First Unity replacing parts of Gnome, now Canonical is depending more and more on Qt...

    What's going to happen to the GNU Network Object Model Environment?

    Are they still capable of "fighting" against Qt and KDE? Or are they going to make agreements in Freedesktop form and standarize more stuff like GVFS/GIO vs KIO?

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    I forgot to add a link, damn 1 limit limitation ruined it...

    Kill KIO (was: Repositioning the KDE brand)

    Things need to change, Linux is still a damn mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timofonic View Post
    Poor Gnome, poor GTK3...

    First Unity replacing parts of Gnome, now Canonical is depending more and more on Qt...

    What's going to happen to the GNU Network Object Model Environment?

    Are they still capable of "fighting" against Qt and KDE? Or are they going to make agreements in Freedesktop form and standarize more stuff like GVFS/GIO vs KIO?
    Qt seems to be a better framework for cross platform application development and mobile . No brainer then

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    Quote Originally Posted by BO$$ View Post
    Hopefully Gnome will die. Linux needs only one toolkit. Anyways, nice progress from Canonical. Always thinking one step ahead.
    And controlled by one corporation, Digia.

    Their open governance is a joke, like the one about WebKit. And look at what happened, Google forked the fork and made BLINK

    Maybe they are always thinking one step ahead, but to themselves and contrary to the Free Software ecosystem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BO$$ View Post
    Hopefully Gnome will die. Linux needs only one toolkit. Anyways, nice progress from Canonical. Always thinking one step ahead.
    The problem isn't the toolkit, but the lack of standards and application development being ruined by toolkits. You develop software on one toolkit, then you are trapped by their ways (and it seems difficult to separate GUI from the rest of the code in toolkits like Qt).

    Both KDE and Gnome projects are tainted by seldom attitudes, but other DE suffer the same problem too.

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    let's get the fact: gnome is controlled by Red Hat behind the curtin
    kde is more independent then red hat's DE
    kde uses Qt which is a full framework; GTK is a simple tk and it is useless without gnome controlled libraries (GLib, GFVS,GIO, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    Yeah. The Qt CLA is the last piece missing before the entire Canonical stack can be closed. It must be nice for Canonical to have a toolkit offering this. Who needs freedom anyway..
    What kind of freedom are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    The kind of freedom where free licenses matter, not CLA ones.
    Both, Canonical's stack and Qt, are licensed GPL and LGPL. I guess you wouldn't call that unfree licenses, would you? Also, how do you think Canonical or Digia could close down (L)GPL licensed software?
    Once again you are talking out of your ass, without any expertise on the topic you chose to post about. Do for one time something useful and help in the development of [INSERT FAVORITE FOSS PROJECT HERE] instead of annoying people on Phoronix with your shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    The kind of freedom where free licenses matter, not CLA ones.
    Ah, the freedom for developers to close source software ... *That* freedom

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