First of all there is no Black or White situation for me. I like open-source software but I will not make my life harder just to support it.
Originally Posted by zanny
Secondly, Nvidia binary drivers are free and as long as they are free I DONT CARE if they are open or proprietary.
Would you pay for a "open" but not "free of charge" driver? Personally not...
I don't pay for my OS and I don't pay for my drivers. Open or not its OK for me. I don't have security concerns about Nvidia. I believe Linux kernel is more possible to have a backdoor than Nvidia binary driver.
If I had an 8600GT I would be able to play Wargame European Escalation. With my Radeon 2600 PRO I can't!
Last edited by verde; 01-21-2014 at 03:44 AM.
Nvidia blob is not free, it is freeware. Freeware means proprietary with EULA that allows free distribution only under conditions. So it is not even free to distribute, only if you follow restrictions in EULA.
Originally Posted by verde
There is huge power behind "care", because you still "care" about product features/price and the "care" we understand stretches beyond features/price of current product.
And if company has consumed major intellectual and financial base with consumers having no care outside of "features/price", this company will be capable to produce cards at very low price per unit and will cut features / dictate just the price to beat the concurrence that has much higher entry barrier.
You will start "caring" when Nvidia starts cutting OpenGL features, because they want it, like they did in the past. But there will be no alternative, and any possible alternative will be immediately cared of by price reduction even below the cost of production!
Intel and AMD are rebuilding the whole OpenGL and kernel driver stack under open license, it is similar to rewriting the whole infrastructure from scratch. This is why I care about GPL, as the whole limitation is due to proprietary actions, not-caring about license, in the past by developers (Directx worked a little better, so why care about OpenGL?)
Nvidia is to GPU market like windumbs to OS market. If you don't care beyond "feature/price" you are doomed to complying and repeating the whole opensource "crusade" in feature catch-up over and over.
Last edited by brosis; 01-21-2014 at 04:52 AM.
I've replied here re tearing
Originally Posted by ChrisXY
and thanks for the link to the forum post!
Exactly my experience but sadly your post will be drowned in wave of nvbots claiming that magic NVIDIA driver has no issues
Originally Posted by johnc
Care to post some links that would indicate that nVidia driver on Linux may be getting worse?
Originally Posted by Ramiliez
Yea, I've had less than stellar experience with it as well.
Originally Posted by Ramiliez
Here you go: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/t...-the-desktop/1
Originally Posted by Bucic
Originally Posted by smitty3268
"Privativo" (ending with "o") is the spanish translation for "propietary" in the context of free software. Somewhere "propietary" is bad translated in this context as "propietario", wich means "owner" (correct for other context), so "privativo" is recommended in spanish.
Originally Posted by tom.higgy
"Privative" is a valid english translation of "privativo" and maybe people use it to avoid confusion to spanish speakers. Maybe you also read the term "libre software". "Free" have two meanings, free as in freedom, and free as in free beer. In spanish we have "gratis" for "free as in free beer" and "libre" for "free as in freedom", so lot of people is using that spanglish term "libre software" to avoid confusion (Moreover, in spanish the correct term is very similar: "software libre").
To go intopic, I have a Radeon 6850 card wich I bought because of AMD helping to make open source drivers. The wait was long, but well, now libre<--->privative drivers are near parity. I suffered seeing perfomance loss, but enjoyed the libre one's support of compositing and kernel-mode-setting. Next card will be an AMD one for sure, the parity is near. I like games, but I'm not a gamer, more a gnulinuxer and I have a Winbugs partition for games that doesn't work at GNU/Linux.
"libre" is actually French (who took it from Latin, but it came to English through French).
Originally Posted by malkavian