File System Benchmarks in Linux

[petabyte]

As Michael requested: a suggestion for Linux benchmarking:

I would really like to see some file system comparisons next time you
test a (stable) Linux kernel. Benchmarking Linux kernels is fine, but aside from the new features, significant performance gains are unlikely (especially when testing with games). It seems we know much less about the performance of the array of Linux file systems we have. The last good file system benchmarks I saw were fefe's: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/, but it seems he's ceased his testing.

I know it is difficult to control file system benchmarks in a fair way, but the guidance within fefe's extensive tests should surely get you started. I'd like to see reiserfs3, reiserfs4, ext3, ext4, xfs, jfs, and zfs in a line-up. I have lots of ideas so please reply with any questions.

[Jade]

As Michael requested: a suggestion for Linux benchmarking:

I would really like to see some file system comparisons next time you
test a (stable) Linux kernel.....

I'd like to see reiserfs3, reiserfs4, ext3, ext4, xfs, jfs, and zfs in a line-up. I have lots of ideas so please reply with any questions.

Funny, you should mention filesystem tests:

Smaller is better:

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| Filesystem | Copy Sources | Disk Usage | Copy Sources | Tar & Gzip | Untar & Unzip | Delete All |
|            | Across       | Usage      | Within       | Sources    | Sources       | (seconds)  |
|            | Partitions   | (MB)       | Partition    | (seconds)  | (seconds)     |            |
|            | (seconds)    |            | (seconds)    |            |               |            |
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| REISER4    |          148 |        692 |           55 |         68 |            27 |         52 |
| NTFS-3g    |         1328 |        772 |         1348 |        600 |           776 |        73+ |
| NTFS       |          781 |        779 |          173 |          X |             X |          X |
| REISER3    |          184 |        793 |          100 |         87 |            61 |         11 |
| XFS        |          221 |        799 |          173 |        120 |            91 |         57 |
| JFS        |          290 |        806 |          547 |         87 |          1248 |         89 |
| EXT2       |          204 |        816 |           81 |         73 |            40 |         24 |
| EXT3       |          181 |        816 |           77 |         77 |            46 |         26 |
| FAT32      |          252 |        988 |          162 |        126 |            88 |         19 |
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

REISER4 wins (by far) in ALL the important categories.

It is not clear why NTFS preformed so poorly.

Everyone knew FAT32 was a dog.

The reiser4 filesystem clearly outperforms all the other filesystems, in almost all the measured categories. Using reiser4, rather than ext3, saves you a massive 816 - 692 = 124 MB of disk space (a 15% saving, mainly, from eliminating block alignment wastage). Not only do you save 124 MB, but your copy is finished significantly quicker.

As you can see, REISER4 is a truly remarkable filesystem.

This is the real reason that REISER4 has not been included in the Linux kernel.
This is the real reason that Hans Reiser languishes in an Oakland prison cell at this time.

From http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm or,

http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/res...benchmarks.htm

ALSO SOME BONNIE++ RESULTS

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Version 1.93c               Sequential Create               Random Create        
SuSE 10.0              Create     Read     Delete    Create     Read     Delete  
files:max              /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
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REISER4 128:131072:0    779  21   893  19  1554   9   126   4    65   1   781   4
REISER3 128:131072:0    288   7    72   1   382   2   283   7    64   1   138   1
 notail 128:131072:0    279   7    71   1   343   2   293   7    64   1   140   1
XFS     128:131072:0    222   3   525   8   914   5   280   4    71   1   111   1
EXT2    128:131072:0    263  53   764  13   766   2   265  53    83   8   133  11
EXT3    128:131072:0    224   5    87   1   172   1   224   6    86   1   167   1
FAT32   128:131072:0/5   49  93    94  82   294  97    72  89    34  30    94  95
NTFS-3g 128:131072:0     70   0    77   0  4744   3    59   0    38   0   435   0
JFS     128:131072:0     57   0   421   6    37   0    19   0    70   1    22   0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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Version 1.93c              Sequential Output         Sequential Input    Random 
Concurrency   1       Per Chr    Block    Rewrite   Per Chr    Block     Seeks  
Machine         Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
REISER4           1G   247  97 57710  12 28317  10   405  99 63709  10 210.3   6
REISER3           1G   541  98 52162  14 27133   6  1566  91 63820   7 218.0   3
 notail           1G   518  99 53709  14 25820   5  1565  83 58242   6 219.0   3
XFS               1G   753  99 58613  11 27075   5  1242  95 63546   5 197.7   2
EXT2              1G  1103  98 54209   8 27425   5  1475  90 62867   5 215.3   2
EXT3              1G   399  99 48357  16 27124   5  1459  92 63209   6 213.9   3
FAT32             1G   966  98 50540  20 24478  10  1553  93 63883  15 195.1   5
NTFS-3g           1G    26   6 49060   7 20383   3  1629  93 57937   4 169.5   0
JFS               1G  1141  98 56314   9 27866   4  1582  92 63839   5 220.2   2
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[petabyte]

Thats excluding ext4 and zfs. If the phoronix people get around to testing newer versions of these with a newer kernel...That would be cool.

[1c3d0g]

Jade: you also forgot to mention that Reiser4 is unstable as hell. Sure, it performs nicely, no doubt about that. But would you really trust your data on a fs that can f*ck itself over any second? Not me, thanks.

[Rob Williams]

Jade: you also forgot to mention that Reiser4 is unstable as hell. Sure, it performs nicely, no doubt about that. But would you really trust your data on a fs that can f*ck itself over any second? Not me, thanks.

I was thinking the same thing. It's fast, maybe because it doesn't handle thing securely. I'd be interested in seeing ext4 performance as well.

[StringCheesian]

Reiser4's performance is awesome. I'd use it if its latency was better and it was stable.

This is the real reason that REISER4 has not been included in the Linux kernel.

No. Reiser4 has it's own built in replacement for kernel code that the other linux filesystems use. That replacement would be redundant - the kernel devs would rather reiser4 and the other file systems share as much code as possible. They also said it was too unstable. That's why.

This is the real reason that Hans Reiser languishes in an Oakland prison cell at this time.

Name one person/entity with the motive to do what you're implying. Let me guess - it's gotta be either Elvis or Big Foot, right? No wait, it's probably that massive government conspiracy with the aliens. Reiser4 protects you from being kidnapped and probed, and they can't have that can they?

[Jade]

1c3d0g said: "you also forgot to mention that Reiser4 is unstable as hell."

May I politely suggest that you are mistaken.

If not, please produce the studies that show the purported Reiser4 instability.

I have seen ZERO evidence that Reiser4 is unstable.

I have noted that Reiser4 has been deliberately sabotaged in all of Andrew Morton's recent Linux kernels (linux-2.6.20-rc1-mm1 thru rc4), and even though many complaints can be found on the internet, no one has bothered to respond to, or fix, the problem(s).

StringCheesian said: "Name one person/entity with the motive to do what you're implying."

Hans Reiser is a Jew who is being slandered and set up by Jews.

His problem is that his product Reiser4, is much better than NTFS.

This is a problem for Microsoft and Microsoft owners.

The visible face of these people is "the Jews" (the secret society, not the religion, or having a Jewish mother (although, of course, the last are closely related to the first)).

The GPL prevents the usual tactic of buying him out (and turning Reiser4 into NTFS2).

Without the GPL, Reiser might be a rich man, and Microsoft might be extolling the virtues of it's new filesystem.

[Michael]

Jade,

I have already warmed you about your anti-semitic remarks on the Phoronix Forums. These comments will not be tolerated and any further rants will result in your banning on the forums. I ask that you kindly refrain from making these comments, thank you.

[joshuapurcell]

This is unbelievable. Did anyone ever see that Mel Gibson movie where he was worried everyone was watching him, and he had his house locked down and had all the conspiracy theories? Can't remember the name of the movie (probably Conspiracy something or other), but Jade missed his calling.

Stop posting this crap here... find some foil collector's community to work out the details of your as-yet-to-be discovered plot for Jewish world domination.

[siti]

This is unbelievable. Did anyone ever see that Mel Gibson movie where he was worried everyone was watching him, and he had his house locked down and had all the conspiracy theories? Can't remember the name of the movie (probably Conspiracy something or other), but Jade missed his calling.

It's Conspiracy Theory.