openSUSE Factory & Tumbleweed Are Merging

[phoronix]

Phoronix: openSUSE Factory & Tumbleweed Are Merging

openSUSE's Factory and Tumbleweed rolling-release projects will be merged into one next month around the time of the openSUSE 13.2 release...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTgyMjA

[TheBlackCat]

That certainly simplifies things.

[brosis]

Piece of crap distro, that just confirmed that I personally switched from it.
Ugly configuration - multiple windows with progress bars and two buttons.
Use of alot of memory.
Scattered repositories.
Basic repository also fragmented with illogical labeling (oss, non-oss, src-oss, src-nonoss, update, debug, and so on).
Outdated packages in non-tumbleweed.
Broken tumbleweed.
Absence of codecs and many essential software in basic repository.
Idiotic package manager - poorly documented, very function limited, unprofessional (double-Ctrl-C: "Ok, ok, I am quiting", wtf OK-OK)
A lot of bugs, like not cleaning of /tmp !!!

By merging tumbleweed(*) with factory(*) - they basically destroyed the only positive - they loose to Mint(non-rolling) and Manjaro(rolling, acceptable, cutting edge).
* - wtf this naming, why not call it "testing" and "unstable", or "rolling" and "unstable" - or anything of SANE. Is this building of robots(factory) and desert (tumbleweed)??


The ugliest distro in non-esthetical way, that I ever used. Gentoo is many times better than this.
If you use Opensuse, just drop it and switch to Manjaro and likes.
At least those do the thing, easy to configure, have latest packages, truly roll and its devs can be easy contacted to help with fixing.

[marccollin]

Piece of crap distro, that just confirmed that I personally switched from it.
Ugly configuration - multiple windows with progress bars and two buttons.
Use of alot of memory.
Scattered repositories.
Basic repository also fragmented with illogical labeling (oss, non-oss, src-oss, src-nonoss, update, debug, and so on).
Outdated packages in non-tumbleweed.
Broken tumbleweed.
Absence of codecs and many essential software in basic repository.
Idiotic package manager - poorly documented, very function limited, unprofessional (double-Ctrl-C: "Ok, ok, I am quiting", wtf OK-OK)
A lot of bugs, like not cleaning of /tmp !!!

By merging tumbleweed(*) with factory(*) - they basically destroyed the only positive - they loose to Mint(non-rolling) and Manjaro(rolling, acceptable, cutting edge).
* - wtf this naming, why not call it "testing" and "unstable", or "rolling" and "unstable" - or anything of SANE. Is this building of robots(factory) and desert (tumbleweed)??


The ugliest distro in non-esthetical way, that I ever used. Gentoo is many times better than this.
If you use Opensuse, just drop it and switch to Manjaro and likes.
At least those do the thing, easy to configure, have latest packages, truly roll and its devs can be easy contacted to help with fixing.

hot troll...

we have a champion

[andyprough]

Basic repository also fragmented with illogical labeling (oss, non-oss, src-oss, src-nonoss, update, debug, and so on).
....
Absence of codecs and many essential software in basic repository.
....
By merging tumbleweed(*) with factory(*) - they basically destroyed the only positive - they loose to Mint(non-rolling) and Manjaro(rolling, acceptable, cutting edge).

Oh my goodness - who could ever figure out open-source, non-open-source, and source naming conventions on a repository?

Codecs? You've obviously never used openSUSE before. Or Fedora. Or Debian. And you don't know what either Tumbleweed or Factory refer to.

Newb/troll - you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Do yourself a favor and go back to Mint, let the adults deal with adult distros. I'm afraid you might poke your eye out with the sharp corner of a CD case or something.

[Ouroboros]

Ugly configuration - multiple windows with progress bars and two buttons.

What? Are you just talking about KDE?

Use of alot of memory.

Again, KDE?

Scattered repositories.

I can't comment on this since I've never used SUSE/OpenSUSE.

Basic repository also fragmented with illogical labeling (oss, non-oss, src-oss, src-nonoss, update, debug, and so on).

I find that to be perfectly clear. At the very least it's clearer than Ubuntu's Main, Restricted, Universe, Multiverse.

Outdated packages in non-tumbleweed.

Nah flipping shit, Sherlock. SUSE/OpenSUSE put stability first.

Broken tumbleweed.

Again, I can't comment on this. What exactly is 'broken' about it?
OpenSUSE was supposed to have greatly improved the stability of Tumbleweed and Factory recently.

Absence of codecs and many essential software in basic repository.

Really now? Practically all non-Ubuntu distributions are like that.
"By default only free, open, non-patent encumbered formats such as Ogg Theora, Ogg Vorbis and Flac are supported for legal reasons (US software patents and Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA))." - http://opensuse-guide.org/codecs.php

Idiotic package manager - poorly documented, very function limited, unprofessional (double-Ctrl-C: "Ok, ok, I am quiting", wtf OK-OK)

man zypper

A lot of bugs, like not cleaning of /tmp !!!

Again, be more specific.

Gentoo is many times better than this.

Aaaaannnnd we a have troll here.

[Passso]

Brosis RULZ

Opensuse is completely unstable and buggy, last month I typed Ctrl-C in a terminal and it crashed the program running inside!!!!!!!

And WTF this naming, why not call ALL distros Linux so that we can understand!!!!!!!!!

[Vidar]

All trolling aside I think the messiest thing about openSUSE is their website. When google is easier to use to find what's on it than the site itself I think there's a problem there... Not only is it messy but some of their wiki and portals pages are severely outdated as well.

I guess I've grown accustomed to how simple and easy Arch's website is to find packages and check for info on their amazing wiki. Still, I like Debian Sid and I'm very much curious to try openSUSE rolling to see how it compares to Arch and Sid.

[saulo]

All trolling aside I think the messiest thing about openSUSE is their website. When google is easier to use to find what's on it than the site itself I think there's a problem there... Not only is it messy but some of their wiki and portals pages are severely outdated as well.

I guess I've grown accustomed to how simple and easy Arch's website is to find packages and check for info on their amazing wiki. Still, I like Debian Sid and I'm very much curious to try openSUSE rolling to see how it compares to Arch and Sid.

Good observation.

[saulo]

Piece of crap distro, that just confirmed that I personally switched from it.
Ugly configuration - multiple windows with progress bars and two buttons.
Use of alot of memory.
Scattered repositories.
Basic repository also fragmented with illogical labeling (oss, non-oss, src-oss, src-nonoss, update, debug, and so on).
Outdated packages in non-tumbleweed.
Broken tumbleweed.
Absence of codecs and many essential software in basic repository.
Idiotic package manager - poorly documented, very function limited, unprofessional (double-Ctrl-C: "Ok, ok, I am quiting", wtf OK-OK)
A lot of bugs, like not cleaning of /tmp !!!

By merging tumbleweed(*) with factory(*) - they basically destroyed the only positive - they loose to Mint(non-rolling) and Manjaro(rolling, acceptable, cutting edge).
* - wtf this naming, why not call it "testing" and "unstable", or "rolling" and "unstable" - or anything of SANE. Is this building of robots(factory) and desert (tumbleweed)??


The ugliest distro in non-esthetical way, that I ever used. Gentoo is many times better than this.
If you use Opensuse, just drop it and switch to Manjaro and likes.
At least those do the thing, easy to configure, have latest packages, truly roll and its devs can be easy contacted to help with fixing.

Ubuntu fanboy detected.