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    Phoronix: Upstart Still Has A Bright Future On Ubuntu Linux

    While most Linux distributions have switched from using sysvinit or Upstart to systemd as their init daemon, Upstart continues to be happily used within the Ubuntu camp. For the Ubuntu 14.04 development cycle there are more Upstart improvements planned...

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  • #2
    Originally posted by Honton View Post
    CLA. Single Vendor Control. Obsolete design. Lost its community.

    Kill it. This is an embarrassment to us all.
    Not more than you.

    Anyways, nice to see that they are working on it, not everybody seems to drink Lennart's KoolAid.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
      Not more than you.

      Anyways, nice to see that they are working on it, not everybody seems to drink Lennart's KoolAid.
      Hey, it seems you are into every single news item remotely related to Ubuntu and trying to say how good it is

      Lennart's "KoolAid" (aka systemd, used by more distros and an attempt to standarize) is at least usable, CLA-free and without all the trashing of Mark Shuttleworth...

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      • #4
        happy to not care

        I just couldn't care less. It's their own business what they want to have in Ubuntu but I for one am happy with systemd in my distribution ( Frugalware ). I tried Kubuntu with upstrart but it seemed slower.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by timofonic View Post
          Hey, it seems you are into every single news item remotely related to Ubuntu and trying to say how good it is

          Lennart's "KoolAid" (aka systemd, used by more distros and an attempt to standarize) is at least usable, CLA-free and without all the trashing of Mark Shuttleworth...
          Except for the RHEL 6 series and by consequence CentOS 6, whick means even Red Hat will have to support it till 2020.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nll_a
            Man, some people's lives must suck so bad. Hanging out on the Phoronix forums most of the time is like hanging out with Tourette's patients. Geez.

            What's embarrassing is all this stupid bickering. Upstart's not going anywhere. Comments like that one won't change that fact. Deal with it and move on.
            The really sad part is that he thinks his comments will actually have some effect. Like if he complains a lot, that it will somehow make the things he thinks/feels come true., or influence events. Actions make things become true, whining in a message board certainty doesn't.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by timofonic View Post
              Lennart's "KoolAid" (aka systemd, used by more distros and an attempt to standarize) is at least usable, CLA-free and without all the trashing of Mark Shuttleworth...
              Yep, so Upstart is so unusable that is was first choice for RHEL 6, and ChromeOS. Oh, wait ... .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Vim_User View Post
                Yep, so Upstart is so unusable that is was first choice for RHEL 6, and ChromeOS. Oh, wait ... .
                more like systemd wasnt ready and other alternatives were worse at that moment(2009? not sure the exact date) in time, for rhel7 is getting nuked out in favor of systemd now that it is ready and there are rumors around chromeOS will nuke upstart too in the near future.

                anyway upstart was good few years ago but they sit on their asses and stop innovating and today compared to systemd is very very inferior

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
                  more like systemd wasnt ready and other alternatives were worse at that moment(2009? not sure the exact date) in time, for rhel7 is getting nuked out in favor of systemd now that it is ready and there are rumors around chromeOS will nuke upstart too in the near future.

                  anyway upstart was good few years ago but they sit on their asses and stop innovating and today compared to systemd is very very inferior
                  Rumors don't count at all. Also, you realize that this article was about improving Upstart, don't you? Do you think that they should stop improving Upstart because systemd exists? Should Debian stop improving just because some people deem Ubuntu to be the better Debian? Should no one improve any other DE/WM, because the Gnome people think they have the best?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by siopi View Post
                    Except for the RHEL 6 series and by consequence CentOS 6, whick means even Red Hat will have to support it till 2020.
                    As init which was better than the legacy sysvinit.

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