Fedora KDE Desktop Spin Promoted To Same Tier As GNOME-Based Fedora Workstation

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What's there to maintain when upstream are the ones that maintain the X11 support.

- Packaging is different for one

- Behaviour is different

- Features are different

- Triaging bugs is way harder

Source: I am a member of the Fedora KDE SIG

[Damnshock]

You cant force volunteers to work on things they don't want to.

As one of those volunteers, I thank you for your words :-)

[Damnshock]

So in simple plain English terms, if I go to https://getfedora.org which version will I get if I click on the first thing I see?

That is yet to be decided

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There was a guy on these forums that was a member of the KDE SIG that said they do not get a dime from Fedora for working on the KDE version,

That was me. And I still issue the same statement: we don't get money from contributing to Fedora KDE.

It's about money, like most things in life.

This is why the KDE SIG group tried to have their version supplant the Gnome version, so that they could get all the dough, but obviously the Gnome version people were not about to give up their cash cow after all these years, so they worked out a compromise and decided to split the cash.

That is absolutely FALSE. Please, refrain yourself from spreading such information.

In fact, we are trying to find solutions to some issues, for example: the arm resources are very thin and essentially dedicated to Workstation...

[You-]

Please, point your sources to issue such an statement.



That is absolutely not true. You are phrasing it like that because it suits your purposes. (not to mention that Fedora workstation is going the same way (and even Red Hat itself: https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/..._dropping_x11/)

My understanding is from https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3165:

As the KDE SIG team does not want nor has the capacity to maintain X11 support starting with KDE Plasma 6, we removed X11 support as detailed in the Fedora Change.

[Damnshock]

My understanding is from https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3165:

That was not opened by us, it was opened by sgallagh and he was also paraphrasing. Where you need to look at for our change proposal is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDE_Plasma_6

Of course maintenance burden has a huge significance but it wasn't that we cannot support it. It was that we want to put our efforts elsewhere essentially due to the reasons stated in the change proposal.

:-)

[Vistaus]

Correction: it was published exactly on April's 1st.

Source: I am one of the submitters

Then the wiki time is incorrect, as it shows a different date for me.

Either way, my point still stands: just as I suspected back then, it wasn't a joke, but a lot of people still thought it was.

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Then the wiki time is incorrect, as it shows a different date for me.

Either way, my point still stands: just as I suspected back then, it wasn't a joke, but a lot of people still thought it was.

You are right: a lot of people thought it was a joke

If you are really interested of the timings: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.ph...action=history :-)

[sophisticles]

That was me. And I still issue the same statement: we don't get money from contributing to Fedora KDE.

That is absolutely FALSE. Please, refrain yourself from spreading such information.

In fact, we are trying to find solutions to some issues, for example: the arm resources are very thin and essentially dedicated to Workstation...

Which part is false?

According to Red Hat:

https://www.redhat.com/en/open-source/articles/fedora-project-open-source-evolved

Red Hat is the primary corporate sponsor for the Fedora Project and a major contributor.

According to Fedora:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/fedora-and-red-hat-enterprise-linux/

Fedora is developed by the Fedora Project and sponsored by Red Hat.

According to this Fedora gets about 300 grand a year:

https://fedorarepository.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/AR-2023-Fedora18-1.pdf

It follows that if the Fedora SIGs that are responsible for various spins do not get any of this cash then the official version must be getting the cash.

It also follows that if there are now two official versions then the cash must be getting split.

Where am I wrong?

[jeisom]

This is great. While there is a large group of users who seem to love gnome, for users just starting out on linux after using windows kde plasma is the quickest for new users to adapt and allowing them to focus on getting up to speed on what they are trying to accomplish. It is also very flexible and can be customized quite a bit. I currently have a macos like dock with my install.