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  • FESCo Approves The Fedora 41 Switch To DNF5

    Phoronix: FESCo Approves The Fedora 41 Switch To DNF5

    Following the plans going back to 2022 for Fedora 39 to use DNF5 but last summer deemed weren't ready and then delayed DNF5 to Fedora 41 due to the RHEL10 branching from Fedora 40, the Fedora Engineering and Steering Committee (FESCo) has now given their sign-off for the updated package manager in F41...

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    Back when switched from yum to dnf they included *both* for a few cycles, then once dnf was declared ready they just replaced the yum binary with a stub that redirects to dnf. Nothing was stopped them from doing that in Fedora 38, 39, or 40.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mxan View Post
      Back when switched from yum to dnf they included *both* for a few cycles, then once dnf was declared ready they just replaced the yum binary with a stub that redirects to dnf. Nothing was stopped them from doing that in Fedora 38, 39, or 40.
      You probably missed that it dnf4 and dnf5 were both included in Fedora for all these releases. The first two releases included them in a copr repo. From Fedora 40 onwards, it is available alongside dnf4 just like yum and dnf in the past and dnf5 was used in the build system and all packages were built for Fedora 40 using it as a first step before the full migration.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by spicfoo View Post

        You probably missed that it dnf4 and dnf5 were both included in Fedora for all these releases. The first two releases included them in a copr repo. From Fedora 40 onwards, it is available alongside dnf4 just like yum and dnf in the past and dnf5 was used in the build system and all packages were built for Fedora 40 using it as a first step before the full migration.
        “Included” means on the system, not downloadable from a repo or a copr. Facepalm.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mxan View Post

          “Included” means on the system, not downloadable from a repo or a copr. Facepalm.
          You said "included" when you meant installed by default. Not merely just included. Facepalm indeed. Next time be clear

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spicfoo View Post

            You said "included" when you meant installed by default. Not merely just included. Facepalm indeed. Next time be clear
            Don’t play dumb, everyone knows “included” in that context means “installed by default”, not merely present in the repo, or an *external* one you have to already know about to enable. Lol, is this what desperately defending corporations like IBM Hat does to people?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mxan View Post

              everyone knows “included” in that context means “installed by default”, not merely present in the repo
              Everyone knows the distinction between included and installed by default and they are not the same in any context. Move along.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by spicfoo View Post

                Everyone knows the distinction between included and installed by default and they are not the same in any context. Move along.
                Corporate drones love gaslighting huh

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mxan View Post

                  Corporate drones love gaslighting huh
                  So you don't know the meaning of gaslighting either huh

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                  • #10
                    Is there a competition, like world cup, on the frequency of changing the package manager? rpm - yum - dnf - dnf5, this is what I noticed, and soon I think there'll be rustdnf5. Maybe those efforts could be better spent on some productive tasks?

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