Kodi-Powered LibreELEC 8.2 Released

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Kodi-Powered LibreELEC 8.2 Released

There's a new release of LibreELEC, the Linux distribution focused on delivering a premiere HTPC/multimedia experience by being built around the Kodi HTPC software...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LibreELEC-8.2-Released

[tildearrow]

Typo:

while bundlding the latest Kodi release,

[profoundWHALE]

I'm wondering why they switched from LibreSSL to OpenSSL

[stefansaraev]

I'm wondering why they switched from LibreSSL to OpenSSL

because of the y2k38 bug on 32bit platforms that's not going to be "fixed" in libressl

EDIT: to be clear: libressl fails to validate notAfter for root CAs with validity beyond year 2038. and that's in fact not a libressl bug (as libressl is doing the right thing - it refuses to deal with those 32 bit time_t values)

[bug77]

because of the y2k38 bug on 32bit platforms that's not going to be "fixed" in libressl

EDIT: to be clear: libressl fails to validate notAfter for root CAs with validity beyond year 2038. and that's in fact not a libressl bug (as libressl is doing the right thing - it refuses to deal with those 32 bit time_t values)

I must be missing something here, but it can't validate expiration dates past 2038, how is that not a LibreSSL bug?

Also, a distro with Libre in its name and Nvidia driver. Take that, you open-source die-hards

[stefansaraev]

I must be missing something here, but it can't validate expiration dates past 2038, how is that not a LibreSSL bug?

As said, libressl doing the right thing, but I wont argue with you, here some background:

https://github.com/libressl-portable/portable/issues/207

https://kernelnewbies.org/y2038

Also, a distro with Libre in its name and Nvidia driver. Take that, you open-source die-hards

why do you think a project that ships nvidia driver sould not be allowed to use "Libre" in it's name?

[starshipeleven]

why do you think a project that ships nvidia driver sould not be allowed to use "Libre" in it's name?

Because NVIDIA is evil.

More seriously, "libre" name is usually used by blob-free programs or firmwares, while "open" is just opensource (that can have blobs or not).

So it looks strange that a "Libre" program is shipping blobs. But he didn't say anything about allowing/not allowing projects to use "libre" wherever they want.

[stefansaraev]

Because NVIDIA is evil.

More seriously, "libre" name is usually used by blob-free programs or firmwares, while "open" is just opensource (that can have blobs or not).

So it looks strange that a "Libre" program is shipping blobs. But he didn't say anything about allowing/not allowing projects to use "libre" wherever they want.

.. but not always. "libre" does not mean "blob-free"

LibreELEC was born as a fork of OpenELEC. they never promised a blob-free linux distro.

[stefansaraev]

offtopic: btw, your beloved intel requires non-free blobs for their gpus. and wireless... your beloved amd requires non-free blobs too

[starshipeleven]

.. but not always. "libre" does not mean "blob-free"

Stallman begs to differ: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Thus, “free software” is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of “free” as in “free speech,” not as in “free beer”. We sometimes call it “libre software,” borrowing the French or Spanish word for “free” as in freedom, to show we do not mean the software is gratis.

So yeah "libre" is spanish/french for "free", and in many projects it is used instead of "free" to show that the software respects your freedom, while just stating "free software" is too generic as "free" is used for shareware and other gratis software which may or may not respect the user's freedoms. (and "Open" is not enough)

It's not a hard rule, but it's common nowadays.
Libreboot, Libreoffice, Linux-Libre, LibreCAD, LibreJS, LibreCMC, Libre.fm, Libreplanet, and probably other minor ones.

LibreELEC was born as a fork of OpenELEC. they never promised a blob-free linux distro.

Does not change the fact that "libre" is commonly used by such projects, so it does look strange on a distro shipping blobs.

It's not a crime either, I'm not flaming them for a name.